Tribe.net. Local Connections tsgeisel http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/fc609663-3b52-41c6-b70f-e517439dd88c 2006-09-18T06:17:03Z 2005-07-04T08:29:59Z

<div>Lordy, spare me from "non-smoking" "420-friendly" people. <br/> <br/>Perhaps it means you tolerate the usage. But generally not. <br/> <br/>Smoking is smoking. If you only smoke pot, it makes you a pot-smoker, not a non-smoker. <br/> <br/>It's like saying I'm a vegetarian, but I sometimes eat chicken. The fact that you need a qualifier means you don't qualify. <br/> <br/>Ok...I feel better now. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 9 replies </div>

tsgeisel 2005-07-04T08:29:59Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/51e6071c-b1bb-4b91-81ca-02d6c2f7344e 2006-08-25T16:25:37Z 2006-06-27T15:38:29Z

<div>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/06/27/national/w072327D54.DTL <br/> <br/>Surgeon General Warns of Secondhand Smoke <br/>- By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer <br/>Tuesday, June 27, 2006 <br/> <br/>(06-27) 08:04 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- <br/> <br/>Separate smoking sections don't cut it: Only smoke-free buildings and public places truly protect nonsmokers from the hazards of breathing in other people's tobacco smoke, says a long-awaited surgeon general's report. <br/> <br/>Some 126 million nonsmokers are exposed to secondhand smoke, what U.S. Surgeon General Richard Carmona repeatedly calls "involuntary smoking" that puts people at increased risk of death from lung cancer, heart disease and other illnesses. <br/> <br/>Moreover, there is no risk-free level of exposure to someone else's drifting smoke, declares the report issued Tuesday — a conclusion sure to fuel already growing efforts at public smoking bans nationwide. Fourteen states have passed what are considered comprehensive smoke-free workplace laws, those that include restaurants and bars. <br/> <br/>But the surgeon general is especially concerned about young children who can't escape their parents' addiction in search of cleaner air: Just over one in five children is exposed to secondhand smoke at home, where workplace bans don't reach. Those children are at increased risk of SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome; lung infections such as pneumonia; ear infections; and more severe asthma. <br/> <br/>"Exposure to secondhand smoke remains an alarming public health hazard," Carmona said. "Nonsmokers need protection through the restriction of smoking in public places and workplaces" — and by smokers voluntarily not puffing around children. <br/> <br/>The report won't surprise doctors. It isn't a new study but a compilation of the best research on secondhand smoke, the most comprehensive federal probe since the last surgeon general's report on the topic in 1986, which declared secondhand smoke a cause of lung cancer in nonsmokers. <br/> <br/>Since then, numerous other health agencies have linked to secondhand smoke to heart disease and other illnesses. Earlier this year, California health officials estimated that secondhand smoke kills about 3,400 nonsmoking Americans annually from lung cancer, 46,000 from heart disease, and 430 from SIDS. <br/> <br/>The new surgeon general's report doesn't retally the deaths, but it cites that toll. <br/> <br/>The tobacco industry and some businesses, particularly restaurant and bar owners concerned about loss of smoking customers, have challenged some of the broadest public smoking bans in cities and states. <br/> <br/>The new report gives new scientific ammunition against those challenges, said Matthew Myers of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. <br/> <br/>"There is no longer a scientific controversy that secondhand smoke is a killer," he said. The report "eliminates any excuse from any state or city for taking halfway measures to restrict smoking, or permitting smoking in any indoor workplace." <br/> <br/>Among other findings: <br/> <br/>_Separating smokers from nonsmokers, cleaning the air and ventilation systems don't eliminate exposure to secondhand smoke. <br/> <br/>_There is good evidence that comprehensive smoking bans, like those in New York City and Boston, don't economically hurt the hospitality industry. <br/> <br/>_Workplace smoking restrictions not only reduce secondhand smoke but discourage active smoking by employees. <br/> <br/>_Secondhand smoke can act on the arteries so quickly that even a brief pass through someone else's smoke can endanger people at high risk of heart disease. Don't ever smoke around a sick relative, Carmona advised <br/> <br/>_Living with a smoker increases a nonsmoker's risk of lung cancer and heart disease by up to 30 percent. <br/> <br/>_There isn't proof that secondhand smoke causes breast cancer, although the evidence is suggestive. California earlier this year cited that link in becoming the first state to declare secondhand smoke a toxic air pollutant. <br/> <br/>_On the plus side, blood measurements of a nicotine byproduct show that exposure to secondhand smoke has decreased. Levels dropped by 75 percent in adults and 68 percent in children between the early 1990s and 2002. However, not only has children's exposure declined less rapidly, but levels of that byproduct among children are more than twice as high as in nonsmoking adults. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 3 replies </div>

spidra 2006-06-27T15:38:29Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/8255f214-7aaf-4ae1-9e35-6694118fd23a 2005-12-07T23:49:11Z 2005-12-07T23:49:11Z

<div>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/12/07/national/a114036S98.DTL <br/> <br/>It's odd to me that the extra time would be given to bars located in restaurants. Not that I'm fond of public smoking anywhere, but it's especially gross around food.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

spidra 2005-12-07T23:49:11Z trancedan http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/0b8f75dc-494e-4fdb-9997-dbf4aa8f4b9b 2005-11-10T06:15:49Z 2005-11-09T05:36:20Z

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trancedan 2005-11-09T05:36:20Z marjorievolin http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/2982da00-1f73-4e8a-9023-8e12e9292a7b 2005-10-17T18:25:29Z 2005-10-17T17:57:59Z

<div>had like 2 cigarettes. so what do you do when you fall off the wagon? <br/>forgive yourself &amp; move on? go through some sort of pennance? say f it &amp; go on a smoking binge? <br/>curious</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

marjorievolin 2005-10-17T17:57:59Z ross http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/896f927f-ef46-47a4-bd7f-6364dab67f74 2005-10-10T22:50:58Z 2005-10-10T22:50:58Z

<div>Interesting report out of the UK <br/> <br/>Smokers spend £92,000 on their deadly habit <br/>Author: Nick Gibbens <br/> <br/>10 Oct 2005 <br/> <br/>The average British smoker spends £92,000 on cigarettes in a lifetime, according to a survey by Clerical Medical. This figure equates to 373,302 cigarettes, or 18,665 packs for every smoker. <br/> <br/>On a yearly basis that breaks down to £1500 spent on tobacco which works out to 6,060 individual fags (303 packets). In a day a smoker burns through 15.24 fags which in a week totals 106.68 - but with the normal smoker admitting to an increase in their usual daily quota when they go out that weekly figure tops 116. <br/> <br/>And collectively UK smokers get through 72 billion fags a year (3.6 billion packs), costing a shocking £17 billion. Laid out in a line all those cigarettes would stretch over four million miles, and circumnavigate the earth 154 times. <br/> <br/>"We all know about the health problems associated with smoking but we wanted to find about out the wealth implications associated with the habit," said John Hiew, managing director of Clerical Medical. <br/> <br/>"It’s a staggering amount of money British smokers spend whichever way you look at it, and that’s a hell of a lot of disposable income just going up in smoke. If people were to consider putting the money they spend each month on cigarettes into a savings plan not only would they probably live longer, but they could have an extra income of thousands of pounds a year." <br/> <br/>Even social smokers - who only light up when they go out to bars, clubs or restaurants - spend over £11,000 in a lifetime. Part-timers still manage to inhale 14.55 cigarettes a week, in a year that stacks up to 756 fags (37 packs), which equals £186 per year. <br/> <br/>The research also revealed that 83 per cent of respondents have tried giving up smoking at least three times. A third admitted that they lasted only a couple of days, while the same amount crumbled after two months, while 15 per cent managed a year. Startlingly one in ten people said they sparked up again after more than twenty years of resisting the temptation to smoke. <br/> <br/>Northern Ireland folk emerged as the biggest smokers, ahead of Londoners and those from the North West. <br/> <br/>Smoking Regions: <br/>Northern Ireland <br/>London <br/>North West <br/>East Anglia <br/>South West <br/>Yorkshire <br/>South East <br/>Wales <br/>Midlands <br/>Scotland <br/> <br/>The on-line survey of 3,000 respondents was completed during the first two weeks of September. <br/>http://www.999today.com/healthandmedicine/news/story/2070.html <br/> <br/> <br/>8 October 2005 <br/>LIFE'S A FAG <br/>Smokers spend £91,832.43 on 373,302 cigs in their lifetime <br/>By Richard Smith <br/> <br/>SMOKERS spend an average £91,832.43 feeding their habit, a study said yesterday. <br/> <br/>In their life they will puff through 373,302 cigs. That is 18,665 packs, or 15.24 coffin nails a day. <br/> <br/>Action on Smoking and Health said: "This proves how wasteful and addictive smoking is. Not only can it kill you, it also costs enormous amounts of money." <br/> <br/>UK smokers buy a breathtaking 72 billion fags a year at a cost of £17billion. Laid end to end, they would stretch for more than four million miles. <br/> <br/>The average smoker will spend £1,493.22 on 6,060 cigs each year, according to a survey of 3,000 people by insurers Clerical Medical. <br/> <br/>They would have to stick at it for 61 years to spend the £91,800 total. Even part-time puffers smoke 14.55 cigarettes a week. That is £11,000 in a lifetime. <br/> <br/>Eighty three per cent of smokers have tried to give up at least three times. A third were fag free for only two days. The same number gave up for two months, while 15 per cent managed a year. Ten per cent lit up again after more than 20 years. <br/> <br/>Those living in Northern Ireland smoked the most, followed by Londoners and people in the North West and East Anglia. <br/> <br/>Clerical Medical boss John Hiew said: "There's a hell of a lot of disposable income going up in smoke. If smokers put their money in a savings plan they'd probably live longer and have thousands of pounds extra a year." <br/> <br/>FIVE things you could buy for £90,000: Three new Porsche Boxsters; more than 100 return trips to Australia; a villa on the Costa Blanca; 1,875 tickets to watch Chelsea; three-bed house in the North-East of England. <br/> <br/>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_objectid=16223358&amp;method=full&amp;siteid=94762&amp;headline=life-s-a-fag--name_page.html <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

ross 2005-10-10T22:50:58Z tsgeisel http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/6b207b1a-2d90-4350-a8ec-ac150d604b34 2005-07-08T22:21:02Z 2005-07-08T03:53:56Z

<div>http://www.quitmeter.com/ <br/> <br/>Will tell you how long you've not been smoking, how many cigarettes you haven't smoked and how much you've saved by not smoking. <br/> <br/>Cool toy, if it applies to you.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

tsgeisel 2005-07-08T03:53:56Z aclipscomb http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/0d34453d-9a91-4229-9f72-2ee1717df1cb 2005-07-04T15:06:02Z 2005-07-04T10:31:56Z

<div>On Christmas Day of 2004, I threw away my cigarettes. The case on pneumonia I was developing had a lot to do with that, but I've stuck it out for 6 months so far (longer than I've ever managed before). <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

aclipscomb 2005-07-04T10:31:56Z arize http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/700dc393-7011-40dc-9837-ba7cd31bf191 2005-04-17T19:56:33Z 2005-04-17T19:56:33Z

<div>hello. i've been struggling with my quit now well, officiall for years, but most recently, for a year. <br/> <br/>that is, i quit for 3 months last year, then relapsed, then quit again in december, during which i have had a really hard time. im just thinking my process is really fucking long and tortuous or something. <br/> <br/>anyway, im sort of an old hand with issues. or something like that. <br/> <br/>but i do know of some other online resources. <br/> <br/>there's this place called Quit Net that has chat 24/7 and folks from all over the world. mostly G8 countries. its at www.quitnet.com. they celebrate anniversaries with you - like "hell week" and "heck week" and etc.... they have a lot of information and little forums too. <br/> <br/>also, im part of this other spot thats a board fulla renegades from quitnet - a bunch of ex-smokers who talk about stuff besides quitting. all kinds of stuff. photography, sex, politics, whatever. p207.ezboard.com/btheemptyroom its a forum with chat where you can post images and stuff rants and raves journal stuff, whatever. you have to do a free registration to post but you can look first either way... <br/> <br/>keep up the really fucking hard work! i'll try to be around here. its good for the quit! </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

arize 2005-04-17T19:56:33Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/1a5ef491-6324-40e9-8a60-3de56457dc54 2005-03-31T19:31:06Z 2005-03-31T19:31:06Z

<div>You might need to be a Berkeley resident. I'm not sure: <br/> <br/> Two Upcoming Free Quit Smoking Classes <br/>Freedom From Tobacco <br/> <br/> <br/>Berkeley, California (Thursday, March 31, 2005) The City of Berkeley Tobacco Prevention Program is pleased to offer two upcoming Quit Smoking Classes, both with the option of acupuncture (using ear points) to assist in quitting. <br/> <br/>Class #1: A Two-Session Intensive Workshop <br/> <br/>Wednesday, April 6th , from 5:30 to 8:30 pm and April 20th, from 5:30 to 7:30 pm <br/> <br/>2326 Tolman Hall, UC Berkeley Campus <br/> <br/>Acupuncture will be provided on April 11th to 15th, from 6:00 to 7:30 pm. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>Class #2: Six Saturday mornings, from 9:30 to 11:30 am, April 16th to May 21st, 2005. <br/> <br/>Alta Bates Medical Center/Ashby Campus, <br/> <br/>2450 Ashby Ave. (above Telegraph). <br/> <br/>Acupuncture for this class will be provided on five nights, from May 2nd to 6th from 6:00 to 7:30 pm. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>Please call (510) 981-5330 or email us at: quitnow@ci.berkeley.ca.us and leave a message to enroll. You will receive a confirmation of your registration, as well as additional instructions.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

spidra 2005-03-31T19:31:06Z sauoq http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/81c3a5fd-65d1-45a0-8b65-b0d9f6fd6e9f 2005-03-16T06:08:20Z 2005-03-16T06:08:20Z

<div> <br/>http://coldturkey.tribe.net/ <br/> <br/>For anyone who has quit any addiction cold turkey.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

sauoq 2005-03-16T06:08:20Z marjorievolin http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/81c84b6b-b041-4883-b72d-8c07a59a2422 2005-03-03T00:47:16Z 2005-02-27T16:30:55Z

<div>no, i'm not just quoting tori amos. my significant other quit with me last may because i always promised myself i'd quit by my 30th birthday. other than bitchiness (although i was probably always the same grouch, just now i have quitting smoking to blame it on), i've had a pretty easy time with it. my significant other is on stage 2 patches. i know it's healthier than smoking, but i'm wondering if there's something i can do to get him off them entirely. Running out the other day caused a serious attitude shift, &amp; i don't like the idea of him still having that crutch. yes, i know, codapendents anonymous exists</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 3 replies </div>

marjorievolin 2005-02-27T16:30:55Z TheBORG http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/f3ba86ff-aed6-4bff-8917-8f6f61f2b8d5 2005-02-27T16:26:44Z 2004-12-09T22:40:09Z

<div>1 year anniversary since I became a NON-SMOKER is next week... All thanks to a $7 book... <br/> <br/>I still have cravings... Mostly when I'm out drinking or stressed to hell at work... <br/> <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 6 replies </div>

TheBORG 2004-12-09T22:40:09Z ross http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/f13b5392-b348-4cfb-9f50-a36b592dcf36 2005-02-25T22:57:50Z 2005-02-23T22:23:35Z

<div>Please go to: <br/>http://tfk.grassroots.com/TobaccoTreatyNow/ <br/> <br/>and send a letter. <br/> <br/>Thanks</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

ross 2005-02-23T22:23:35Z ross http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/6201a8ee-0008-40f0-a5cd-20ff8edd7585 2005-02-24T23:23:19Z 2005-02-24T19:31:42Z

<div>Check out: <br/>http://www.drugpolicy.org/flash/smoking/ <br/> <br/>Discuss.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

ross 2005-02-24T19:31:42Z Tedster http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/f2c09094-605b-4e81-8f7f-24b5bc07389f 2005-02-20T09:03:43Z 2004-04-09T05:39:03Z

<div>I have stopped smoking for over 10 years. One of the things that irritates me, are people who complain about the plight of the oppressed smoker. <br/> <br/>These are smokers who always complain but don't appriciat that most of the places that don't allow smoking is because they are places that would filthy the air of non smokers.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

Tedster 2004-04-09T05:39:03Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/b57b78b0-8b57-4649-bc33-8adb40a2bede 2005-02-18T05:49:52Z 2005-02-18T00:17:46Z

<div>Expensive litter: Tossed cigarette ignites SUV <br/> <br/>Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer <br/> Thursday, February 17, 2005 <br/>San Francisco Chronicle <br/> <br/>No ifs, ands or butts about it, Jonathan Fish learned an expensive lesson today about the dangers of littering. <br/> <br/>The 20-year-old San Francisco resident was rolling across the upper deck of the Bay Bridge at 10:40 a.m., smoking a cigarette. When he got to Harrison Street, he rolled down the window of his white 2004 Ford Expedition SUV and tossed out the butt. <br/> <br/>Instead of bounding along the pavement, however, the still-lit cigarette blew back in and set the interior of his $30,000 SUV ablaze. <br/> <br/>Black smoke filled the vehicle. Fish pulled over to the far left-hand lane about 100 feet from the Harrison Street exit and leaped from the Expedition, but instead of putting the SUV in park, he left it in neutral. <br/> <br/>The flaming Expedition rolled driverless into a guard rail by the exit, where it crashed to a stop and burned to the frame. <br/> <br/>California Highway Patrol officers and fire crews arrived and closed the off-ramp until 11:45 a.m., tying up traffic all the way back to the toll plaza. Fish had his hair singed but was otherwise unharmed. <br/> <br/>Tossing a burning cigarette onto the road is a misdemeanor, and even though this particular cigarette never actually hit the road, Fish will probably be cited all the same, the CHP said. The citation can be up to $1,000. <br/> <br/>"Obviously, this guy is fortunate that he wasn&amp;#65533;t a fatality and that he did not receive any more serious injuries than singed hair," said Officer Shawn Chase of the California Highway Patrol.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 3 replies </div>

spidra 2005-02-18T00:17:46Z Beibhan http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/3172c376-3945-433a-a551-799c407f44d9 2005-02-11T23:22:27Z 2005-02-11T23:22:27Z

<div>I currently am learning to play pool. So I hang out a lot at a sports bar. They have an outdoor smoking area out a back door. <br/> <br/>I have asthma. And I'm allergic to cigarette smoke (or it's the same thing, smoke makes me sick) <br/> <br/>Most folks are polite, but I've been getting pissed off, due to patrons holding the door open so they can smoke and talk to someone inside. It's not a huge bar and my friends (who smoke) always grab the pool table farthest from the smoking area so I can breathe. <br/> <br/>I'm normally somewhat shy with strangers. But lately I've been getting rather aggressive and telling them shut the door, NOW ! <br/>I've even pushed a drunk out the door and shut it behind them (after asking them 2x earlier to keep it closed). Later I told them it was nothing personal, just my need to avoid the hospital emergency room. The idiot had the gall to say "my father had asthma and my uncle died of cancer, so I understand your point, but people who come to bars like to smoke when they drink". <br/> <br/>Is it stupid to expect to go to a bar and breathe at the same time? <br/> <br/>Last week I yelled at an older man who lit up inside the bar and <br/>blew a big puff of smoke inside before stepping outside to smoke. <br/> <br/>And then there was the drunk wandering thru while smoking. My <br/>girlfriend grabbed his cigarette and put it out. This same genius insisted he was driving himself home. <br/> <br/>The drunks have an excuse (lame, but at least it's an excuse). <br/>The sober rude smokers are the ones I'm having problems with. I'm 5'3" and have never picked a fight. The bar owner is <br/>supportive as are her staff. <br/> <br/>I hope to continue to play at this bar. Without carrying a mask. <br/> <br/>ps does it bother anyone else that smokers congregate at every door so you have to breathe smoke to exit almost every business? <br/> <br/>So rant mode off...... <br/> <br/>have a good weekend.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

Beibhan 2005-02-11T23:22:27Z http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/d31480a5-c987-4665-b2a2-968334d2ec47 2005-02-11T23:01:45Z 2004-05-02T06:44:02Z

<div>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974497908/individualsov-20/102-6309031-0612920 <br/>everything you need to know lies here.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 5 replies </div>

2004-05-02T06:44:02Z tsgeisel http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/a027b5f3-ea6d-4d87-9d77-b26b8aa5e04f 2005-02-09T08:56:22Z 2005-02-09T08:56:22Z

<div>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;cid=583&amp;e=5&amp;u=/nm/20050208/od_nm/cuba_smoking_dc <br/> <br/>Who'da thunk?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

tsgeisel 2005-02-09T08:56:22Z ross http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/072429cf-91e2-405d-a7a0-9d55b2679ef6 2005-01-25T20:07:30Z 2005-01-25T20:07:30Z

<div>January 24, 2005 <br/>Tobacco exec challenged about key stance in trial <br/>Peter Kaplan <br/>Reuters <br/>WASHINGTON - The departing executive chairman of Reynolds American Inc. refused to concede that cigarette smoking causes disease during testimony on Monday in the government's $280 billion tobacco industry racketeering trial. <br/>Long-time Reynolds executive Andrew Schindler defended Reynolds' view that cigarettes "may contribute" to disease in "some individuals" as a government attorney raised the company's position as an example of how cigarette makers have deceived the public about the dangers of smoking. <br/>U.S. public health officials concluded decades ago that smoking leads to lung cancer and a range of other serious diseases. Some other tobacco companies, such as Altria Group Inc.'s (MO.N) Philip Morris USA, a co-defendent, now concede the point unequivocally. <br/>Schindler was asked to explain why Reynolds still does not acknowledge - without conditions - that smoking causes lung cancer and other diseases. <br/>He said he had decided against changing the company's stance several years ago after consulting with scientists at company. <br/>"They all concluded that they were comfortable with the Web site the way it is," said Schindler, who stepped down as chief executive of R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Holdings last summer when it bought Brown &amp; Williamson in 2004 and emerged from the deal with a new name. <br/>He was met with skepticism when he told the presiding judge that the company's current position is "a pretty straightforward expression of my own feelings" on the issue. <br/>"If it's so straightforward, why not use simple language to convey it?" asked U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler. <br/>Schindler is due to leave Reynolds American next week. <br/>The government's suit, filed in 1999, targets Altria and its Philip Morris unit; Loews' Lorillard Tobacco unit, which has a tracking stock, Carolina Group (CG.N); Vector Group Ltd.'s (VGR.N) Liggett Group; Reynolds American Inc.'s R.J. Reynolds Tobacco and British American Tobacco Plc (BATS.L) unit British American Tobacco Investments Ltd. <br/>The Justice Department wants the industry to give up $280 billion in past profits and is seeking tougher rules on marketing, advertising and warnings on tobacco products. <br/>Tobacco companies deny they conspired to promote smoking and say the government has no grounds to pursue them after they drastically changed marketing practices as part of the 1998 settlement with state attorneys general. <br/>Justice Department attorney Sharon Eubanks showed the judge a list of statements by Reynolds over the years that she said were designed to confuse the public. <br/>The statements included a 1990 letter responding to a group of school children that said scientists "do not know the cause or causes of diseases associated with smoking." <br/>Reynolds' stance on the hazards of smoking, as posted on the company Web site, reads: "We produce a product that has significant and inherent health risks for a number of serious diseases, and may contribute to causing these diseases in some individuals." <br/>Schindler told the judge the company planned to drop the word "may" to come in line with Brown &amp; Williamson, a unit of British American Tobacco that Reynolds acquired last year. <br/>"You could change the Web site in a heartbeat if you wanted to," Eubanks told Schindler. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

ross 2005-01-25T20:07:30Z tsgeisel http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/a787a1ab-8ae1-4515-a980-d2bebfa2fff7 2004-12-10T06:27:40Z 2004-12-10T06:27:40Z

<div>A little bit of web browsing and now we have pictures for the tribe. <br/> <br/>Why, yes, I am that bored...</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

tsgeisel 2004-12-10T06:27:40Z oobiesam http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/55c86c6d-dfa7-4174-b7ba-7341039b79d0 2004-05-19T04:03:42Z 2004-05-17T23:02:52Z

<div>to all of you used to be smokers out there - what do you do now? <br/>i'm about to go postal out of boredom. i don't want to eat - but i keep doing that <br/>i'm to tired to exercise most days - out of being overworked, and i juts want that thing that makes me not care. <br/>but i'm trying to stay away from it. <br/>so if anyone could share with me some things you do - to stay good, i love to hear <br/>thanks <br/>sam:)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

oobiesam 2004-05-17T23:02:52Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/ae52fe38-cae2-43d9-825e-ef1982a5cabc 2004-05-11T19:07:04Z 2004-05-11T19:07:04Z

<div>Pass it on... <br/> <br/>Two Quit Smoking Classes <br/>Classes Start 5/25 and 6/3 <br/> <br/>Berkeley, California (Tuesday, May 11, 2004) – The City of Berkeley is hosting two free quit smoking classes for Berkeley residence and employees. The first class is held on Tuesday’s starting 5/25 – 6/29 from 5:30 p.m. – 7:30 p.m. Classes will be held at the North Berkeley Senior Center located at 1901 Hearst Street. Participants will also have an option to have free acupuncture using ear points to assist in quitting. The second class is a 3-hour workshop on 6/3 from 5:30 p.m. – 8:30 p.m., at Alta Bates/Herrick Campus located at 2001 Dwight Way between Milvia and Shattuck. This workshop has a 2-week optional follow up on 6/17 from 5:30 p.m. – 7:30 p.m. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>For more information or to enroll, please contact Tobacco Prevention via email or phone at (510) 981-5330.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

spidra 2004-05-11T19:07:04Z TheBORG http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/c310b615-6097-4c2c-acd1-333a93264e1a 2004-04-29T00:46:01Z 2004-04-28T23:22:32Z

<div>It's been over 4 months now without a single cigarette... <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

TheBORG 2004-04-28T23:22:32Z spidra http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/9a5e727d-633b-4c2f-9c62-1a7ca29ea507 2004-04-08T04:13:26Z 2004-01-23T20:40:27Z

<div>In the course of discussing places to have afterparties for the Tribe Winter Mixer, some good tips about scofflaw bars have come out. If you don't like bars that allow smokers to light up inside, avoid: <br/> <br/>Connecticut Yankee <br/>Sadie's Flying Elephant <br/> <br/> <br/>Please add to this list as you run into scofflaw bars.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 4 replies </div>

spidra 2004-01-23T20:40:27Z Zach http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/1d19196a-74b0-4c6f-9012-3d161c8b0079 2004-04-07T21:38:44Z 2004-04-07T16:16:31Z

<div>And never plan to. It seems absolutely disgusting and self destructive to voluntarily inhale a toxic mix of particulate matter and other carcinogenic chemicals. I'm glad my parents concluded their smoking phases long before I was born though it would have been better if they didn't ever smoke at all like myself. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

Zach 2004-04-07T16:16:31Z dr-yo http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/d5debb97-d9dc-4066-99c4-b95c601c2771 2004-03-22T17:18:32Z 2004-03-20T09:39:46Z

<div>I have to say that smoking is horrible, and wrong. It sometimes makes me feel very sick to be around even a tiny amount of cigarette smoke. Sometimes I can tolerate it for a little while, but then it really gets to me. <br/> <br/>Tonight I was at a gathering of tribe folk, and we ended up in a bar that allowed smoking. I had an emotional episode. So now I'm the asshole because other people are poisoning me.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 6 replies </div>

dr-yo 2004-03-20T09:39:46Z TheBORG http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/74a13e3f-2417-4c28-a9d5-9d7f3bfa514e 2004-03-10T00:33:55Z 2004-02-05T03:55:42Z

<div>it's been 8 weeks since I've had a cigarette... Seems like it's been an eternity. I've got so much stress in my life, I think I'm going to smoke any day now. But I must go on! I must fight! <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 10 replies </div>

TheBORG 2004-02-05T03:55:42Z Mark http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/2a7239fa-290a-4b0d-95a8-8c0cedaf3837 2004-02-12T20:21:02Z 2004-02-12T20:21:02Z

<div>You may have seen the commercial during the over-paid-pituitary-case-bowl, but the web site is actually very funny and sponsored by the Legacy Foundation. <br/> <br/>www.shardsoglass.com <br/> <br/>Comments? Is it merely bemusing? Is it good satire of the tobacco companies and their continuing efforts to make smoking acceptable and 'cool?' Do you think this kind of campaign is effective to prevent new smokers or influence current smokers to quit?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

Mark 2004-02-12T20:21:02Z TheBORG http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/437cd8c0-793c-400d-a90f-95a2020e57a0 2003-12-27T14:52:18Z 2003-12-26T13:57:13Z

<div>I quit smoking 16 days ago after just reading a book! It was easy and simple, but I'm starting to crave a cigarette everyonce in a while now. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 3 replies </div>

TheBORG 2003-12-26T13:57:13Z marian http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/55741710-f55d-4e4b-9156-027759f5da79 2003-12-11T18:41:50Z 2003-12-02T02:34:59Z

<div>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&amp;u=/031107/photos_od_afp/031107191448_jzcjts75_photo0&amp;e=2</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

marian 2003-12-02T02:34:59Z tsgeisel http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/8a48cc3a-8581-4e94-9eb4-ec569d53f166 2003-11-02T19:00:51Z 2003-10-14T21:46:31Z

<div>I just felt the need for people to be able to declare themselves as a non-smoker. <br/> <br/>The idea sorta occurred to me as I realized how few of my friends actually smoke, and how, well, disappointed I am when I see someone I'd considered to be a non-smoker actually smoking.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 2 replies </div>

tsgeisel 2003-10-14T21:46:31Z http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/5a857263-11e7-468c-9ca7-5d89951a92b2 2003-10-15T02:39:27Z 2003-10-15T02:39:27Z

<div>i smoke off and on for around 12 years and I quit about 6 months ago. <br/> <br/>feels great</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 0 replies </div>

2003-10-15T02:39:27Z http://nonsmokers.tribe.net/thread/e6cb5844-ae57-4007-82d3-348db0c8b3f2 2003-10-15T02:37:21Z 2003-10-15T01:29:45Z

<div>almost four years ago now. yay! <br/> <br/>i still smoke other things.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://nonsmokers.tribe.net">Non-Smokers</a> - 1 reply </div>

2003-10-15T01:29:45Z